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| Tue 14 Sep 2004 09:52:59 |
| MR.MGBADA |
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| Fri 28 May 2004 22:20:49 |
| Robert Leibold |
| Browsing |
| Fayetteville, Arkansas |
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| Saturday, March 20, 2004 11:25 PM |
| Vivin Mathew Cyriac |
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| austin, texas, usa |
| Cyriac |
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| Tue 04 Nov 2003 16:36:35 |
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| Buenos Aires, Argentina |
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| Sat 25 Oct 2003 12:08:51 |
| Juergen (Jürgen) Cyriacks |
| surfen |
| Achim, Germany |
| Cyriacks |
See a 25 Dec 2008 guestbook entry at Jürgen Cyriacks.
| Thu 09 Oct 2003 12:24:14 |
| Erica CHIARKAS |
| surfing "chiarkas" (reading stuff about my dad, Nick) |
| Madison, Wisconsin |
| Chiarkas |
| Thu 14 Aug 2003 19:26:27 |
| Kortney Cyriax |
| I did a search for my last name |
| New York City, NY |
| Cyriax |
The following are the emails exchanged between Ben Ciriacks and David Saunders that motivated the creation of the = =
= ku-rr-ee-ah-ko image
file shown below.
| Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:42 PM |
| Ben Ciriacks |
| Milwaukee, WI, USA |
| www.Chiriacka.com |
| Kyriakakos Chiarkas Chiriacka |
- - - Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:42 PM Ben Ciriacks wrote:
Thank you very much.
More about the "numerous" saints Cyriaca and Cyriacus and their "various" feast days can be seen at www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cfx.htm, www.Cyriac-FHP.com/csx.htm, www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cqx.htm, www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cjx.htm and www.Cyriac-FHP.com/ctx.htm - the primary saint being St. Cyriacus at the Baths at www.Cyriac-FHP.com.csx.htm his mother, sister or aunt being the www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cfx.htm who is more detailed at www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cwx.htm. I prefer the August 8th feast day as the primary one - August seeming to be the hottest, muggiest month in Rome and the one where most 'persecutions' and other 'entertainments' of the day took place to mollify the masses and keep them from rioting in the streets due to the miserable weather. (The Latinized versions of the names are, of course, Dominic and Dominica.)
Based solely upon the information provided in your email, I suspect the "ka" may have been added to the kos sometime after the 4th century - maybe to represent family members who didn't subscribe to the "Christian" beliefs of the rest - the rest being proud of the possibly Christian-connected identity their name had to the "Lord". It could have even been added during the Reformation to designate those who converted over from the Orthodox/Roman Catholicism to any of the alternatives springing up after that. This is all conjecture and needs the research of someone who's 'deeply' studied the "true meanings" of the language used in the 1st through 3rd centuries. (I didn't know the "kakos" - "bad Lord" definition until your email - that's another very interesting mystery to be resolved along with the others at our mysteries (www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cyx.htm) page .)
- - - Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:57 AM David Saunders wrote:
Please feel free to use this information as you see fit. I will forward your own interesting info Kyriakos to Chiriacka's family.
Was the saint's name Kyriakos or Kyriakakos? What day is his Saint's Day? What is the Roman transliteration of that saint's name? It can't be, "Saint Bad-Lord," because that is just too wacky a name for a saint.
Best wishes, David Saunders
- - - 8/2/03 Saturday, 9:46 AM Ben Ciriacks wrote:
Thanks for the prompt reply and very interesting information. We already had the Kyriakakos variation (among the 1160) at the Kyriakakos section of the KY~ spellings page. Your information helps the genealogical research process immensely and for that reason alone would warrant inclusion at the web site. Am attaching a file that's now also included at our Inscriptions (www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cvx.htm) web page that was created as a result of discovering the Chiriacka name.
The research on our 'Greek' name is, of course, greatly facilitated by the fact that Kyriakos was one of the first 54 saints identified by the newly legalized 'Roman' Catholic Church in the 4th century - more likely as a result of all the inscriptions "in stone" referencing him or others within the catacombs built in the 3rd century. (My own lineage comes directly from the Bremen area of Germany and I suspect my Roman-Greek ancestors fled there from the massive persecutions in the rest of the Roman Empire at the beginning of the 4th century. Others believe, as I used to, that we obtained the name from the churches dedicated to Saint Cyriacus/Kyriakus in Germany but my research made me think that there was a very large family name Kyriakou throughout the Roman Empire by the 3rd century - possibly in the construction/development business -- my Bremen, Germany ancestors were 'builders'.)
Can I include any or all of your emailed response at the web site?
- - - Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:51 AM David Saunders wrote:
Thank you for contacting me about your complex investigation of the Cyriax. I am the biographer of the artist Ernest Chiriacka and it has been a complex investigation just to establish his various names. I happen to be Greek myself, by way of my mother, Eleni Politoupolis, and it has been a wild ride even to discover my own Greek name origins. The basic problem with all Greek names is that they are spelled and pronounced in a unique alphabet that has little direct equivalents to the alphabet of European languages, and this compells all Greeks to individually adopt convenient transliterations that are vaguely compatible with where ever they happen to migrate outside of Greece, and 90% of all Greeks do migrate.
Orginally Ernest Chiriacka was born as Anastassios Kyriakakos, but even
that is a transliteration of the Greek alphabet spelling, but that is a
phonetically accurate equivalent to the Greek name. Anastassios
was raised in New York and many people presumed he was a girl, so he
spontaneously chose Ernest as a first name instead. Kyriakakos, was
too hard for New Yorkers to pronounce, so the family name was changed to
Chiarkas. By the 1920s that name was again revised to
Chiriackas. Even within his own family, the five Kyriakakos
children, born between the years 1910 and 1920, have each evolved their
own personal name revisions, and no two siblings have the same last
name. "Kyria" means "Lord" in Greek and "Kakos" means "bad", so the
name means "Bad-Lord" or "Evil-Lord". [ Nov 10, 2011
update: See Margarita Natsis'
guestbook entry for an interpretation meaing "son of" instead of "evil"
or "bad".
6/22/2011 Ben Ciriacks update: In the case of our family name
Kyriakos and its association with the beginnings of Christianity in the 1st three centuries,
the "ka" in the ancient greek of that era could have been
equivalent to our modern term, 'NOT!' In other words, many
(if not all) of those persons using Kyriakos were associated
with Christianity, so those with the same name 'BEFORE' Christianity came about (persons we've yet to discover) who also
wanted to disassociate themselves with the others changed their name to Kyriakakos to signify that they were "Christianity
associated NOT!" ]
That is the complex evolution of this name. I am not sure whether the current and spontaneously subjective deformity as "Chiriackas" still has any genuinely traceable relevance to your own research of Cyriax, unless perhaps the Greek alphabet spelling of Cyriax and Kyriakakos are themselves related, which does seem possible when you consider the transliteration of a subjectively phonetic interpretation. "Cyria" and "Kyria" are obviously the same Greek origins, and "X" and "Kakos" are also both related alphabetically by the Greek "X" and "K" are the same.
Good Luck on this complex puzzler. David Saunders
- - - 8/1/03 5:32 PM, Ben Ciriacks wrote:
Just discovered your surname last night in the latest Smithsonian Magazine. Hadn't thought much about that variation of the spelling of our 2,000 year old surname but it's obviously closer to the original Greek pronunciation than my own (seer-ee-ax). Have spent most of the day updating the Cyriac-FHP.com site with new revisions at Inscriptions.Cyriac-FHP.com and the CA-prefix (www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cyrialca.htm) pages. (Have another couple days of work to do searching on the 60 CHI... variations just added - many of them appear to be in use around the world and should have been included long ago.)
I'd guess that your name derives from the much more common Italian based CIRIACO spelling but the CKA ending hints at other origins. Do you have any information on your family history or genealogy - especially anything we can share at the web site?
Ben Ciriacks, Webmaster and Author
Web site: ben.ciriacks.com
| Monday, April 07, 2003 4:09 AM |
| jan |
| search engine |
| Tue 11 Feb 2003 17:44:23 (updated 12 Feb 2003) |
| William David Zier |
| internet |
| San Diego, CA, USA |
| zier zeir |
("Oceania" manifest): Abraham Zier -Russian Hebrew
Place of Residence: Dobcio, Russia
Date of Arrival: January 5, 1911 Age: 37 Married
Port of Departure: Triest, Austria, Hungary
Wife's name? U.S. City settled? Children? Death Date?
| Thu 19 Dec 2002 09:22:24 |
| Klaus |
| search engines |
| Germany |
| Tue 22 Oct 2002 20:36:12 |
| Luke Alan Ciriacks |
| falls church/va/usa from west bend/wi/usa |
| ciriacks.com |
| ciriacks |
Our family history is interesting indeed. My thanks to those that have done so much to bring light where there was none.
Growing up in West Bend, Wisconsin, I remember a time when there were Cyriacks / Ciriacks reunions. Will our children ever experience these unique reunions? I was fortunate to meet some Cyriacks in Germany, while I studied abroad, and hope that our great family continues to learn more about one another and meet.
Sincerely, Luke Alan Ciriacks
| Friday, August 09, 2002 8:53 am & 5:24 & 7:52 pm |
| Kessie |
| Germany |
| www.kessie.de |
| Cyriaks |
| Searching for my family |
Hello, My name is Kirsten and the name of my grandmother's mother was Martha Catharina Cyriaks, born April 4, 1886 - died May 22, 1955.
My history began 1755 with Bruen Cyriaks. He was married with Beka Bischofs. And the name of the son was Christopher Cyriaks, born July 4,1784 and died April 13, 1862. The name of his wife was Helena (or Hillena) Winters Helmken.
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Our database shows a birthdate of July 2, 1783 but could be in
error - based upon the memory of a child at the time a marriage or birth
was recorded. Most of our dates came from research done by me in the Scharmbeck, Germany area in
1972. The Winters middle name and month and day of his death
were not in our database before this email.
(A child in between these two Christophers is another
Christopher born January 27, 1824 along with his twin Johann.
Christopher (b1824) married Margareta Adelheid Helmken on April 25, 1857
- they had five children -- none of which were twins. Their 5th
child, Christoph Herman Hinrich was born July 25, 1864. The sixth
birth was a stillborn child on March 15, 1865 - one probably also causing
the death of Margareta.
Christopher next married one Adelheid Oetjen
from Nordwede - they also had five children -- two sets of which were
twins.
The name of the grandson was Christopher Hinrich Cyriaks, born July 25, 1864. He and his wife Adelheid Margaretha had 10 children. Two of them, John and Herman Henry lived in New York.
-
As can be seen in the family tree segment at the
web site, the Christopher born on 7/25/1864 died in 1930 and married Anna
Budde - according to information provided to us by their descendents
living in the United States. Although he was one of 10 children,
our information shows that he and Anna had only 4 children - the four
(Katie, Herman, George and May) shown below.
Our family lives in Bremen. The family of the Cyriacs are living in Bremen and Torfmoor. You have some informations on your site about some of the people from my family, but I am not sure that it is the same family.
Sorry,- my english is very bad, but I hope that you have some information for me of the family. (Your english is very good - much better than my german.)
Do you know this people:
- Katie Cristine, born 1/28/98, married Edgar John
(1 child and 7 grandchildren in our database) - Herman Henry, born 2/16/00, married Norma Bussenschutt
(3 child, 8 grandchild and 5 great grandchildren in our database) - George Herman, born 4/29/92, married Katherine Murphy
(no descendents in our database) - May Adeline. born 9/22/95, married Oscar Mees
(5 child, 12 grandchild and 17 great grandchildren in our database)
There are children of Herman Henry Cyriacs. He married Christine Budde and later her sister Mary. (These marriages are not in our database - we only show the one above to Norma Bussenschutt.)
I hope you give me an answer. With friendly regards. Kirsten
- - - - next email of same date inserted herewith - - - -
Hello, thanks a lot for your informations.
I have this informations of Christoph Cyriacs (January 27, 1824 - October 26, 1898). He married Margaretha Adelheid Oetjen (born Helmken). They married April 28, 1857.
They have 10 children: [read day.month.year - the convention used outside the USA]
- Adeline 08.01.1858 Torfmoor, Lilienthal - 08.05.1939 Scharmbeck
- Lueder, born 24.02.1859 - died 26.12.1938 Bremen
- Christoph Hinrich, born 25.12.1860 - died 03.04.1964
- Katharina, born 07.01.1863 - died 14.09.1919
- Herman Henry, born 25.06.1864 - died 11.01.1930 New York
- Stillborn 15.03.1865 - died 15.03.1865
- John, born 06.06.1866 - died 23.06.1927 New York
- Hinrich, born 06.06.1866 - died ?
- Rebecka Anna, born 06.07.1870 - died 05.10.1870
- Ernest, born 06.07.1870 - died 11.08.1936 Kleinmoor
The name of Adelheid Margarete Cyriaks (Daughter from Luer Oetjen and Trien Margareth Helmke) is writen in the familybook of my grandmother. Her name was Freya Kämke.
One son from Christoph and Adelheid Margarete was Lueder (Lüder) Cyriaks 24.02.1859 - 26.12.1938). He married Meta Catharina Spark 14.03.1861 - 23.09.1923. [Meta Catharina Spark] was the daughter of Claus Spark (July 28, 1825 - 1882) and Marie Elisabeth Streckswald ( April 5, 1833 - September 5, 1887) They had three children:
- Martha Catharina, Adele and Cornelia.
- Martha Catharina married Johann Hasch. They had two children:
- Werner and my grandmother Freya Martha Adele.
I found in the family book only one wife of Christoph Cyriaks. I don't know whether my information is wrong. But in the book is the birthplace from Adelheid Margarete Oetjen (Helmken), born 2.2.1830, Nordwede.
Here a some informations about my great grandmother:
- Martha Catharina Cyriaks, born April 26, 1886, died May 22, 1955. She married Johann Hasch June 26, 1911. [database=March 22, 1955] She killed herself with gas in her house in Bremen-Horn.
- Her sister Adele Elise Cyriaks went to New York in 1922. The ship called "George Washington". But Adele came back to germany.
The daughter of Johann Cyriaks and Anna Blume, Mabel (born August 27,1895) was also in germany. I think, she meets the family here. But I am not sure. The journey was July 28,1926 from Bremen to Southampton and New York (Name of the ship: "Columbus").
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[database has 1923 and 1924 arrivals in New York, also, and
indicates that she never married. She may have been a merchant in
New York.]
-
[database has Johann Hermann Christopher Cyriaks born June 15,
1898 and died March 1972 or before. He married Sylvia Siegrist,
who was born Aug. 3, 1903 and died Nov. 10, 1996. Some dates are
reflected in the Social Security Death benefits records. The
database reflects their two daughters, one having one daughter and two
sons.]
I hope you have a wonderfull weekend and I will give you more information of the family, if you want.
Yours sincerely, Kirsten
| Friday, February 15, 2002 6:00 PM |
| Heather Whitcomb |
| kyriakou |
Webmaster response: Sorry, I don't, but can I place your query under the Kyriakou name at
http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/cyrialky.htm#kyriakou and http://www.jamrent.com/c/cyrialka.htm#kayes
That might help get you some more information. Including your email address there may also help but I'll do so only with your permission. The Kyriakou spelling is among the oldest in the family (going back at least 20 centuries) - meaning the only way we would be able to establish a blood line connection would be through DNA testing - something I imagine is still a decade or more away for genealogists. In the meantime, I have no doubt we are all part of the same family that originated in Greece and may have some history there going back several centuries B.C.
By copy of this reply I'm sending your original message to the only other people I know of with affinity to the Kyriacou spelling - you all might want to share information you have with each other - and with me for the web site if it's not too personal -- I consider anything after the year 1900 to be personal and will not put it on the web site but can put it with whatever else I have on my hard drive family tree.
| Friday, August 24th 2001 - 11:29 PM |
| cyriac joseph |
| Chavara, Cyriac, Elias, Kuriakose & Kuruvila |
I didn't notice that Kuriakose Elias is already in the site. Actually my father comes from South Kerala, the home town of Chavara Kuriakose (cyriac) Elias.
In fact I once visited his burial place and a seminary (CMI) where Cyriac Chavara once lived and served.
Once again my hearty greetings.
Cyriac Joseph.
| Friday, August 24th 2001 - 08:05 PM |
| Ben (Theriault) Ciriacks |
| Milwaukee, WI |
| ben.ciriacks.com |
| Chavara, Cyriac, Elias, Kuruvila, Puthenpura |
CYRIAC ELIAS CHAVARA, co-founder and first Prior General of the Carmelites of Mary Immaculate (CMI), was born in Kerala in India, on 10th February 1805. ...
That's the only reference we have to Kerala on the web site. It would help the web site tremendously if you could repeat your email message and add whatever else you want to our Cyriac Family History Project guestbook at:
http://Guestbook.Cyriac-FHP.com
(Or, if that's a problem, just give me permission to do so, and I'll clone your email message to the guestbook for you.)
| Friday, August 24th 2001 - 08:28 AM |
| Cyriac Joseph Padavil |
| Canada via South Kerala, India |
| Cyriac, Kuruvila |
| Surfing the internet |
I am Cyriac Joseph from Kerala, South India. I am a student in Canada for a while. I am so glad to learn the historical and spiritual background of my first name for the first time!
I come from a Roman Catholic family, and my parents gave me this name according to a custom of giving grandfather's name to the firstborn baby boy.
My grandfather's name was KURUVILA, which I got as Cyriac. Do you know what Kuruvila means?
Thanks for your effort to create the site.
God bless you,
With regards,
Cyriac Joseph Padavil.
| July 18, 2001 at 07:40:01 |
| Ben (Theriault) Ciriacks |
| Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA |
| ben.ciriacks.com |
| Created it. |
| Cirieco < Ciriaco < Cyriac
This posting is cloned from message #1 at genforum.genealogy.com/cirieco/messages/1.html |
It's apparent that Ciriaco, a very popular modern Italian spelling (relatively speaking) is probably the origin of Cirieco, but we know of no Cirieco surnamed individuals out there. Anyone care to step forward here.
Go to ben.ciriacks.com for my personal page and see St. Cyriacus for the most prominent of the ancient Rome based saints who is probably a distant cousin or uncle of us all. His mother, aunt, sister or cousin may have been St. Cyriaca
| 26 Apr 2001 Thu 9:58 AM |
| Jared Cyriacks |
| (obsolete) |
I know it has been a long time since I last e-mailed you, but I wanted to say hello. I was especially excited by the opening of the new Ellis Island web-site. I was just finally able to get onto their site today after several attempts. Apparently they were getting an astounding amount of hits on their server and were unable to handle the load.
I was able to do a search on the Cyriacks name. The search returned 10 names, along with the date of arrival, place of origin, age upon arrival and ship that they traveled on.
If you are unable to get through to the site yourself, let me know and I can e-mail you the information I found so far.
For a long time I have been interested in learning about the first members of our family to arrive her in America. Hopefully this site, along with the information from your vast research can help to narrow it down even more.
Have a good day. - - -
| Monday 11/01/1999 8:37:05pm |
| Richard Mangels |
| (no longer valid) |
| Yahoo! |
| New York |
| Cyriack Cyriacks Mangels |
This email was lost for a decade inside another, long defunct online guestbook that was still in one of several backup hard drives - it was placed here where it belongs on August 15, 2008. Our common ancestry for Richard's Grandmother, Adelaide Cyriacks-Mangles, can now be found online at: www.ortsfamilienbuecher.de. Click here to go to our local page.
COMMENTS: My Grandmother's name was Adelaide Cyriack, She was killed in 1921 on the Staten Island Ferry. The car that she and my Grandfather, Richard Mangels, were in was the 1st car that would have gotten off when they reached the other side. My Grandparent's, my Dad and his younger sister were in the car when a wave hit the ferry from the back, the car slid forward and the car went off the ferry, drowning my Grandmother, who was 8 month's pregnant. Everyone got out except my Grandmother, after the car reached the bottom of New York Bay. She is buried in Brooklyn, in a church cemetary. My Sister and I would like to find out more about our Grandmother Adelaide and other family members.
Could you please point me in the right direction on your web site, my sister has viewed it and found what appears to be a mention of an Adelaide Cyriak. (tree image & web site)
Thank you and regards, Richard Mangels, III
Webmaster(Ben Ciriacks) response:
Tuesday 11/02/1999 5:48:07pm
Comments: Thanks, Richard, for that history of your grandmother.
Prior to that we didn't know anything about you guys. As indicated
in a private email to your wife, and just now updated to include her
tragic story, your grandmother, Adelaide (Cyriacks) Mangels can be seen
at our Cyriac Family History Project's
Claus & Metta page.
guestbook ( 1 2 3 4 names) • Home (Secular & Christian) • 
Website link/location/URL: http://Guestbook.Cyriac-FHP.com or http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com/guestbk2.htm or http://www.Jamrent.com/c/guestbk2.htm