D E S P O S Y N I - What it means to our family; a discussion.

The in the 3rd/4th century inscription (above right) translates first to KYRIAKOU and thence to CYRIACUS and has the same meaning as the similarly greek term DESPOSYNOI. The uses Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon to translate Desposyni to 'of or belonging to the master or lord' - giving us another greek appellation for the meaning to which we've been applying our Greek family name, Kyriakou, and the equivalent Latin translations, Cyriacus, Dominicum and Dominici. The recently (re)published work by G. Hugo Eliason entitled "The Generations of AntiChrist An Argument for the Sake of Heaven" contains several references to the appellation Kyriakos that, by the end of the 1st century became the 'surname' for the group known as the Desposyni.  Of the ten separate sections of the book which discuss the Desposyni/(Kyriakos) connection, that on page 159 (of 535 pages) in Section 1:143 is the most significant for us: "This is the summation of the teaching of this Netzer for the lives of His followers.  In the first century they were the primary unseated Abiudite and Rhesaite regal lines, had intermarried, directly related to the Priesthood, and dynastically related to the families of Joseph ben Jacob and Mary bat Heli.  Their leaders in the first century period became known as the Desposyni, and were surnamed Kyriakos toward the end of the period.  Among themselves their followers were known as the "Way", a reference to the "Two Ways" teaching.148 Given the information so far it would be impossible for a Netzerim to be unknown ..."   (the book) "... An Argument for the Sake of Heaven" [toggle-me] Outskirts Press, Inc. Denver, Colorado All Rights Reserved. Copyright c 2011 G H Eliason v2.0 http://www.outskirtspress.com ISBN: 978-1-4327-6550-7 PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Desposyni is another appellation that was applied to the "descendants of the brothers of Jesus" - one branch of which were the descendants of Jesus' brother James, " the Kyriakos Family of Greece, who reigned as a dynasty of rulers over the Judio-Christian colony in the French fiefdom of Province, and, were hereditary Prefects of Province." Provence [toggle-me] The redundant footnotes (pages 315 & 330) to a repeated quote in the text regarding "... your name [Christianoi], venerable and famous and worthy as it is of all men's love, has been much slandered..." imply that the 'name' referred to in the quoted text [and thereby associated with the bracketed Christianoi] could be the surname Kyriakos.  Ben Ciriacks, a five decade long genealogical researcher, believes it could just as likely refer to the greek appellation Kyriakos that was equivalent to the non-greek appellation Christianoi - both referring to early ancient populations associated with Christianity who were undoubtedly being 'much slandered' during the first three centuries when Chrisians became the handy scapegoats for leaders who couldn't find more efficacious solutions to their immediate problems.    [ The word dispossessed keeps coming to mind when reading the above. ]   , in part V of his Epistle to Aristides (?240 AD?) laying out the genealogical basis for the assertion that "Christ might be shown rightfully to be both Priest and King; ...", tells us that: ...  , knowing that the lineage of the Israelites contributed nothing to him, and goaded by the consciousness of his ignoble birth, burned the registers of their families(1a).  This he did, thinking that he would appear to be of noble birth, if no one else could trace back his descent by the public register to the patriarchs or proselytes, and to that mixed race called georae(1b).  A few, however, of the studious, having private records of their own, either by remembering the names or by getting at them in some other way from the archives, pride themselves in preserving the memory of their noble descent; and among these happen to be those already mentioned, called desposyni, on account of their connection with the family of the Saviour.  And these coming from Nazara and Cochaba(1c), Judean villages, to other parts of the country, set forth the above-named genealogy as accurately as possible from the .  ... Footnotes: (1a) archives destroyed by the Romans - not Herod (1b) georae defined as small land holders at the same site (1c) Cochaba was the leader, Messiah, of the second Jewish war which ended in 135 CE per the same site.  [ "... the first Jewish revolt against the Romans, from A.D. 66 to 73.  ..." is provided (coincident with this editing) toward the end of the first full paragraph on page 42 of the latest, August 2009, Smithsonian Magazine in the Finding Herod's Tomb article beginning on page 37.  ] [ January 11th, 2010:  The first full paragraph on page 150 of volume II of William Granger Ryan's 1992 translation of Jacobus de Voragine's 12th century "The Golden Legend -- Reading on the Saints" (another best seller, after the Bible, in the late 15th century when mass production via the printing press became possible) has: We also find, in the Ecclesiastical History and in Bede's Chronicle, that all the genealogies of Hebrews and aliens were kept in the Temple's secret archives.  Herod ordered the burning of these records, thinking that he might be able to pass himself off for a noble if, in the absence of proof to the contrary, he was thought to be Israelite by race.  There were also some who were called dominici ("men of the Lord") because they were closely related to Christ and were from Nazareth.  These dominici worked out, as well as they could, the order of Christ's human ancestry, partly from what they had learned from their forefathers and partly from some books that they had at home. ] A 12/6/07 posting at www.JesusPolice.com (by Pantera): Yeshu's brothers were named Yaa'kov ("haTzaddik"- The Righteous), Yoset, Shimeon ("haToma" - the Twin) and Yehuda.  His sisters were named Miriyam (Mary) and Shlomet (Salome) in Aramaic.  Yaa'kov, or James, sometimes called Oblias ("bulwark"), was the Mebekkar or leader of the Jesus cult until his death in 62CE.  Yaa'kov was said to have taken the vows of a Nazarene, allowing his beard and hair to grow.  After Yaa'kov's assassination, another of Jesus' brothers, Shimeon (Simon) assumed the mantle of leadership.  This dynastic succession continued (through the line of Yoset) until circa 140 CE.  Judah, the last "Jewish Christian or Ebionite" bishop, outlived the Bar Kochba rebellion, (132-135 C.E.) until the eleventh year of the reign of Antoniunus Pius.  The designation appended to his name, "Kuriakos" (kyriakos), indicates that Bishop Judah was descended from the family of Jesus.  Eusebius reports that the Desposyni [the Master's relatives], all descendants of Jesus, survived to become leaders of various "Christian" churches, according to a strict dynastic succession.  Malachai Martin writes that Pope Silvster(1) the First ordered Jesus' descendants hunted down and killed to ensure the Roman Papal primacy. (1)Sylvester I (314~335) reigned just after Christianity was legalized by Constantine I, who ruled from 306 to 337. The Jesus' family Tree has Judah Kyriakos as the "last Jewish Christian Bishop of Jerusalem (ca. 148-149)"  Both the desposynic and kyriakos appellations are given the same meaning, Belonging to the Lord; both are greek and both were presumably used by Greek speaking Christians (dominici is the latin equivalent); but up until now, our has never considered that we may have ancient Hebrew DNA representing a group of ancestors who were among the first Christians in the 1st century -- ancestors who spoke greek but were not Greek!? The HOLY FAMILY 2 ROYAL FAMILY web site has:         The "kindred" of Jesus, who took the surname "Kyriakon", meaning, "the Lord's House", and their male-line descendants, were honored in very high degree both by Christians and by various Jewish interest groups alike, as heirs of ancient Jewish royalty, or as earthly representatives of "Christ", the eternal king of the universe.  The descendants of The Holy Family were called the "Desposyni"/"Desposynoi", meaning, "The Master's Kin".  Their claims to be the successors of "another king", one, Jesus, other than Caesar (Acts 17:7), made them rivals of the Roman emperors, and, as such the emperors Domitian, Trajan, and Hadrian, carried out proceedings against the "Desposyn[o]i" [descendants of Christianity's "Holy Family"].  Their emblem, or coats-of-arms, varied from a depiction of the "madonna and child", to a depiction of the "paschal lamb" crucified on a cross, to a depiction of "The Holy Grail" painted on a round shield with the supporters of a lion, representing "Judah", and a unicorn representing the "Desposyni"; and its crest was the six-pointed "Star of David" inside the circle of the depiction of the sun shining at its splendor. ... "The Way" was what Christianity was originally called by Christians; and Christians themselves were originally called "Nazarenes" before they were first called "Christians" at Antioch, which was originally a nickname, according to history, out of derision for those that followed "The Way". ... Antioch [toggle-me]

The source of the above information comes from the CHRISTIANITY: THE CHURCH & THE DESPOSYNI web site (?by the same author?).  This more comprehensive discussion (with many references to sources) cites both Kyriakon (The Lord's House) and Kyriakos (presumably, member of the Lord's House) within the argument that the male descendents of the brothers of Jesus represented by those appellations are among the Desposyni (Master's Kin), another appellation, who organized themselves to continue the legacy of Jesus Christ as leaders of both religious and secular organizations of ancient times.  The leaders opposed to them, both religious and secular, did what they could to withstand their competition - mostly, apparently, by removing them and their descendents from the face of the earth through persecutions, inquisitions and wars. Kyriakon [toggle-me]

QUESTIONS: Was there any Greek DNA within the "Desposyn[o]i" before they left Jerusalem for Antioch and elsewhere? Were any of the greek speaking Jews said to be in Antioch around 40 AD members of these "Desposyn[o]i"? Will DNA testing show whether present day descendents are from a Greek, Jewish, Greek-Jewish combination or other paternal line? Will that DNA testing provide a good approximation of when new Greek and/or Jewish/Hebrew DNA entered the stream? Would paternal DNA testing presumably of an all-Greek male line show Jewish/Hebrew or other DNA introduced from the maternal line? Will our paternal Ciriacks/Cyriacks/Cyriax/Cyriaque/Kyriacou/Kyriakou/Ziriacks et al DNA test results, whenever we begin collecting them, reflect anything other than British, French, German, Greek, Italian, Jewish markers? Will those test results reflect when other marker lines were introduced into the blood line?  Can they?

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